El desproposito del anarquismo
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PROMETEO
RESPUESTA AL SEÑOR DE LA BUENA ORTOGRAFIA
EL SR.BEVERLY ERA EL CANTANTE DE LOS PISTOLS PERO SID V.ERA EL SEUDONIMO...Y NO SE NADA DE PUNK NI QUIERO ENSEÑARLE A NADIE...LO QUE QUERIA EXPRESAR EN DEFINITIVA QUE PARA CHAVALES DE 15 A 25 AÑOS ESTA BIEN QUE PRACTIQUEN ESE ANARQUISMO ROMANTICO Y DE CALLEJON...NO ME MOLESTA EN LO MAS MINIMO, AL CONTRARIO LOS ALIENTO AQUE LO HAGAN...DESPUES DE LOS 25 CREO QUE AHI SI UNO TIENE QUE PONERSE A LEER ALGUNOS CAMARADAS,Y DESPUES DE LOS TREINTA CREO QUE UNO DEBERIA MORIR POR ALGUNA CAUSA JUSTA...EN FIN ES MI PENSAMIENTO.SALUT
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Con lo sencillo que es buscar "Sid Vicius" en el google.. pero Prometeo parece empeñado en no aprender......
Con lo sencillo que es buscar "Sid Vicius" en el google.. pero Prometeo parece empeñado en no aprender......
el mundo posee ya el sueño de un tiempo cuya conciencia tienen ahora que poseer para vivirlo realmente.
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LA ULTIMA VEZ QUE HABLO DE ESTE TEMA,POR FAVOR LEAN ESTO(ESTA SITUACION ES PENOSA)
Sid Vicious was born in London on May 10, 1957; various accounts list his real name as John Beverley, Simon Ritchie, or "John Simon" followed by one of those two surnames. His mother Anne was single and a frequent recreational drug user, and Vicious often sought companionship and entertainment out on the streets of London. Vicious grew up idolizing glam-rockers like David Bowie, Roxy Music, and T. Rex, often trying to imitate their style of dress. While attending state school as a teenager in 1975, he met and befriended John Lydon, who christened him "Sid Vicious" after a seemingly cute pet hamster who had once bitten a chunk of flesh out of Lydon's father's hand; it was actually a name that Vicious himself disliked. Lydon, Vicious, and several other friends began squatting in vacant buildings, and the former two occasionally busked in subway stations. When Lydon joined the Sex Pistols as Johnny Rotten, Vicious became one of the band's most visible followers, creating a dance tabbed the "pogo," which arose from his jumping up and down to see the band better. Although Vicious played drums for mutual Pistols fans Siouxsie and the Banshees at their first gig, his pre-Pistols days are more remembered for the occasional violence he stirred up at shows. During a Damned show at the 100 Club, he was arrested for throwing a beer glass at the stage; the glass instead hit a pillar, shattered, and struck a female spectator, allegedly blinding her in one eye. In another notorious incident in June 1976, Vicious struck music journalist Nick Kent five times with a rusty bicycle chain. By February 1977, the Pistols' fallout with Glen Matlock was complete, and Rotten suggested his friend Vicious as a replacement; while Sid could not yet play bass, Rotten had faith in his ability to learn, and he already had a dangerous image that played well in the media.
Early in 1977, shortly after Vicious officially joined the Pistols, Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers arrived in the U.K. to tour with the Clash and the Damned; following them was a frustrated groupie and heroin addict named Nancy Spungen, who had once had a brief affair with drummer Jerry Nolan. Thunders did his best to introduce his drug of choice to the London scene, in one instance waving a heroin-filled syringe in Vicious' face and shouting, "Are you a boy or a man?" But it wasn't until a short while later, when a repulsed Johnny Rotten attempted to halt Spungen's unwanted advances by introducing her to Vicious, that Sid's heroin habit began in earnest. The couple took to each other immediately, as Spungen fulfilled her ambition of bagging a Sex Pistol, while Vicious identified with her outcast status and (some friends thought) endured her whining, stupidity, and instability simply because no one wanted him to be with her. As a member of the Sex Pistols, Vicious became an instant star; the resultant ego inflation and opportunities for indulgence, coupled with Spungen's voracious appetite for drugs, spelled trouble.
Sid Vicious played his first live show with the Sex Pistols on April 4, 1977. Although his efforts to learn the bass were sincere, he showed up at recording sessions for Never Mind the Bollocks too drunk to play at all effectively, so the group rehired Glen Matlock as a session musician for most of the tracks. In between all the Pistols controversies of that year, Sid's friends spent most of the rest of the year trying in vain to get rid of Spungen and to break Sid of his heroin habit.
In January 1978, the Sex Pistols embarked on an ill-fated tour of the United States. Most Americans who had heard of Sid Vicious knew only his media image, and upon his arrival, Vicious did his utmost to live up to that violent tough-guy persona -- which, in England, had usually resulted in his getting beaten up. Since he was separated from Nancy, Rotten tried again to help Sid kick heroin, but he was overall too far out of control for the effort to matter much. Tales of Vicious' excesses and self-mutilations on the tour abound: in San Antonio, he called the audience "a bunch of faggots" and hit someone on the head with his bass; in Dallas, he appeared onstage with the phrase "Gimme A Fix" scrawled on his chest; at a truck stop on the way to Tulsa, a trucker put a cigarette out on his hand and challenged Vicious to do the same, so Vicious sliced his own hand open and calmly continued eating. Two days after the Pistols' final gig in San Francisco, Vicious suffered his first heroin overdose; three days later, on a flight to New York, he slipped into a drug-induced coma. Upon his return to England, he and Rotten fell out completely over his drug abuse; he wound up going to Paris for the Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle film, for which he recorded covers of "My Way" and a couple of Eddie Cochran songs.
In August 1978, he and Nancy moved to New York, raising money by performing a farewell gig with a backing band called the Vicious White Kids, which featured guitarist Steve New, bassist Glen Matlock, and drummer Rat Scabies.
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DE TODAS MANERAS CREO QUE ERA MAS IMPORTANTE EL DEBATE A CERCA DE ¿ES UTIL A LA ANARQUIA ESTE TIPODE ARTE?
Sid Vicious was born in London on May 10, 1957; various accounts list his real name as John Beverley, Simon Ritchie, or "John Simon" followed by one of those two surnames. His mother Anne was single and a frequent recreational drug user, and Vicious often sought companionship and entertainment out on the streets of London. Vicious grew up idolizing glam-rockers like David Bowie, Roxy Music, and T. Rex, often trying to imitate their style of dress. While attending state school as a teenager in 1975, he met and befriended John Lydon, who christened him "Sid Vicious" after a seemingly cute pet hamster who had once bitten a chunk of flesh out of Lydon's father's hand; it was actually a name that Vicious himself disliked. Lydon, Vicious, and several other friends began squatting in vacant buildings, and the former two occasionally busked in subway stations. When Lydon joined the Sex Pistols as Johnny Rotten, Vicious became one of the band's most visible followers, creating a dance tabbed the "pogo," which arose from his jumping up and down to see the band better. Although Vicious played drums for mutual Pistols fans Siouxsie and the Banshees at their first gig, his pre-Pistols days are more remembered for the occasional violence he stirred up at shows. During a Damned show at the 100 Club, he was arrested for throwing a beer glass at the stage; the glass instead hit a pillar, shattered, and struck a female spectator, allegedly blinding her in one eye. In another notorious incident in June 1976, Vicious struck music journalist Nick Kent five times with a rusty bicycle chain. By February 1977, the Pistols' fallout with Glen Matlock was complete, and Rotten suggested his friend Vicious as a replacement; while Sid could not yet play bass, Rotten had faith in his ability to learn, and he already had a dangerous image that played well in the media.
Early in 1977, shortly after Vicious officially joined the Pistols, Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers arrived in the U.K. to tour with the Clash and the Damned; following them was a frustrated groupie and heroin addict named Nancy Spungen, who had once had a brief affair with drummer Jerry Nolan. Thunders did his best to introduce his drug of choice to the London scene, in one instance waving a heroin-filled syringe in Vicious' face and shouting, "Are you a boy or a man?" But it wasn't until a short while later, when a repulsed Johnny Rotten attempted to halt Spungen's unwanted advances by introducing her to Vicious, that Sid's heroin habit began in earnest. The couple took to each other immediately, as Spungen fulfilled her ambition of bagging a Sex Pistol, while Vicious identified with her outcast status and (some friends thought) endured her whining, stupidity, and instability simply because no one wanted him to be with her. As a member of the Sex Pistols, Vicious became an instant star; the resultant ego inflation and opportunities for indulgence, coupled with Spungen's voracious appetite for drugs, spelled trouble.
Sid Vicious played his first live show with the Sex Pistols on April 4, 1977. Although his efforts to learn the bass were sincere, he showed up at recording sessions for Never Mind the Bollocks too drunk to play at all effectively, so the group rehired Glen Matlock as a session musician for most of the tracks. In between all the Pistols controversies of that year, Sid's friends spent most of the rest of the year trying in vain to get rid of Spungen and to break Sid of his heroin habit.
In January 1978, the Sex Pistols embarked on an ill-fated tour of the United States. Most Americans who had heard of Sid Vicious knew only his media image, and upon his arrival, Vicious did his utmost to live up to that violent tough-guy persona -- which, in England, had usually resulted in his getting beaten up. Since he was separated from Nancy, Rotten tried again to help Sid kick heroin, but he was overall too far out of control for the effort to matter much. Tales of Vicious' excesses and self-mutilations on the tour abound: in San Antonio, he called the audience "a bunch of faggots" and hit someone on the head with his bass; in Dallas, he appeared onstage with the phrase "Gimme A Fix" scrawled on his chest; at a truck stop on the way to Tulsa, a trucker put a cigarette out on his hand and challenged Vicious to do the same, so Vicious sliced his own hand open and calmly continued eating. Two days after the Pistols' final gig in San Francisco, Vicious suffered his first heroin overdose; three days later, on a flight to New York, he slipped into a drug-induced coma. Upon his return to England, he and Rotten fell out completely over his drug abuse; he wound up going to Paris for the Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle film, for which he recorded covers of "My Way" and a couple of Eddie Cochran songs.
In August 1978, he and Nancy moved to New York, raising money by performing a farewell gig with a backing band called the Vicious White Kids, which featured guitarist Steve New, bassist Glen Matlock, and drummer Rat Scabies. .DE TODAS MANERAS CREO QUE ERA MAS IMPORTANTE EL DEBATE A CERCA DE ¿ES UTIL A LA ANARQUIA ESTE TIPODE ARTE?
PUNK
No creo que este "arte" tenga nada que ver con el anarquismo. No creo que el punk, en su planteamiento inicial, tuviera nada que ver con el anarquismo.
¿Que al cabo de los años se le hayan atribuido actitudes anarquistas? Puede. Es más, hoy día hay mucha gente que se considera punk y anarquista. Pos fale. Los tiempos cambian y es lo que hay.
Pero inicialmente, no tenían nada que ver.
¿Que al cabo de los años se le hayan atribuido actitudes anarquistas? Puede. Es más, hoy día hay mucha gente que se considera punk y anarquista. Pos fale. Los tiempos cambian y es lo que hay.
Pero inicialmente, no tenían nada que ver.
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no creo qe para llamarse anarkista alla qe tener mas de 30 años como algunos insinuan por aqi,tambien creo qe hay muchos jovenes qe dicen ser anarkistas por moda,pero no creo qe sea la mayoria.qe la informacion es basica ,claro qe si,como en cualqier tema ,pero no creo qe alla qe ser un erudito qe alla leido todo sobre el anarkismo para poder opinar,el anarkismo tiene mucho de teoria ,pero creo qe depende mucho mas de una forma de sentir y pensar.no creo qe una persona por el mero echo de meterse gran numero de lectura anarkista se combierta de la noche a la mañana si antes no sentia ningun desacuerdo ante el sistema actual capitalista.el anarkismo de salon qizas sea nesesario ,pero creo mas en el anarkismo callejero(y no me refiero solo al violento),almenos intentan algo real y no se dedican a meras discusiones filosoficas ,qe pueden ser muy interesantes ,pero qe sin la practica pierde toda utilidad.
el cambio social se inicia en la calle y no en los despachos.
el cambio social se inicia en la calle y no en los despachos.